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	<description>I’m a freelance Java developer based in Belgium (better known as Brussels outside Europe). Here I write about my experiences based on my daily struggle with man’s most feared enemy: computers.</description>
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		<title>By: Rich @ Website Builder</title>
		<link>http://www.onthoo.com/blog/programming/2008/02/why-i-dumped-gwt.html/comment-page-1#comment-4524</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich @ Website Builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! I am the architect of my site and I decided to do exactly what you are recommending for the same reasons you have mentioned. We have injected GWT in locations where we wanted to give the user a rich user experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! I am the architect of my site and I decided to do exactly what you are recommending for the same reasons you have mentioned. We have injected GWT in locations where we wanted to give the user a rich user experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Quchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant we use mod_rewrite for Search Engine index?</description>
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		<title>By: Google Web Toolkit: Tools and Tutorials to Get You Started &#124; Geeky Bitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Web Toolkit: Tools and Tutorials to Get You Started &#124; Geeky Bitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why I Dumped GWT Pieter goes into details as to why he doesn&#8217;t develop with the Google Web Toolkit after one and a half years with the toolkit. He goes over reasons like SEO, Adsense customization, and others. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why I Dumped GWT Pieter goes into details as to why he doesn&#8217;t develop with the Google Web Toolkit after one and a half years with the toolkit. He goes over reasons like SEO, Adsense customization, and others. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RaiulBaztepo</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaiulBaztepo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!
Very Interesting post! Thank you for such interesting resource! 
PS: Sorry for my bad english, I&#039;v just started to learn this language ;)
See you! 
Your, Raiul Baztepo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!<br />
Very Interesting post! Thank you for such interesting resource!<br />
PS: Sorry for my bad english, I&#8217;v just started to learn this language <img src='http://www.onthoo.com/blog/programming/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
See you!<br />
Your, Raiul Baztepo</p>
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		<title>By: BrainBakery &#187; Google Web Toolkit: AJAX development that doesn&#8217;t hurt.</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrainBakery &#187; Google Web Toolkit: AJAX development that doesn&#8217;t hurt.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Google Web Toolkit: Tools and Tutorials to Get You Started</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Web Toolkit: Tools and Tutorials to Get You Started</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why I Dumped GWT Pieter goes into details as to why he doesn&#8217;t develop with the Google Web Toolkit after one and a half years with the toolkit. He goes over reasons like SEO, Adsense customization, and others. If you found this article useful, then Subscribe to the feed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why I Dumped GWT Pieter goes into details as to why he doesn&#8217;t develop with the Google Web Toolkit after one and a half years with the toolkit. He goes over reasons like SEO, Adsense customization, and others. If you found this article useful, then Subscribe to the feed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chris.f.jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris.f.jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the google analytics thing goes, we do the following with our gwt app:&lt;br/&gt;1. Make your app support the history mechanism in gwt and make each logical page view a new history item (this is also good for your users in that it makes their back button function)&lt;br/&gt;2. in the historyListener for your app, just make a native call to the urchinTracker, i.e. &lt;b&gt;if ($wnd.urchinTracker) $wnd.urchinTracker($wnd.location);&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3. voila! instant inflated stats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the google analytics thing goes, we do the following with our gwt app:<br />1. Make your app support the history mechanism in gwt and make each logical page view a new history item (this is also good for your users in that it makes their back button function)<br />2. in the historyListener for your app, just make a native call to the urchinTracker, i.e. <b>if ($wnd.urchinTracker) $wnd.urchinTracker($wnd.location);<br /></b><br />3. voila! instant inflated stats!</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Coucke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieter Coucke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your feedback.  I agree that GWT isn&#039;t a good fit for my site as it is now (and GWT never claimed to be used for this), hence the reason of this post. But probably I didn&#039;t explain the reasoning very well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please see my &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.onthoo.com/blog/programming/2008/02/gwt-follow-up.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;follow-up post&lt;/a&gt; post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your feedback.  I agree that GWT isn&#8217;t a good fit for my site as it is now (and GWT never claimed to be used for this), hence the reason of this post. But probably I didn&#8217;t explain the reasoning very well.</p>
<p>Please see my <a HREF="http://www.onthoo.com/blog/programming/2008/02/gwt-follow-up.html" REL="nofollow">follow-up post</a> post.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Cromwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cromwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of points:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1) GWT is more than just a widget library. You can totally ignore gwt-user if you want and implement a moo-like interface using GWT (and it will load and run faster)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2) Whether or not your GWT app is an empty HTML page with just a BODY tag, or if you attach Widgets to existing HTML is a matter of how you design your app. Using traditional JS libraries like ExtJS , you can also do 100% of page layout in Javascript and have almost no content in HTML.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3) Yes, the existing GWT Widgets are not designed to envelope/attach to existing DOM elements that well. However, there are well known workarounds.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;4) You can use GWT-Ext or MyGWT libraries which do have methods for overlaying widget functionality onto existing DOM elements&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would point out, that if you just want to spray a tiny bit of DHTML functionality into an HTML app, then GWT is probably not for you, and I don&#039;t believe Google has been encouraging people to use GWT just to attach a single autocomplete Widget toa  page.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, once you build a non-trivial DHTML app, the GWT approach will pay off, in terms of scaling the size of the code base, to debugging and rich tool chains, to superior size and performance characteristics.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;GWT is not really about replacing jQuery or Moo or Scriptaculous for piece-meal AJAX effects.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of points:</p>
<p>1) GWT is more than just a widget library. You can totally ignore gwt-user if you want and implement a moo-like interface using GWT (and it will load and run faster)</p>
<p>2) Whether or not your GWT app is an empty HTML page with just a BODY tag, or if you attach Widgets to existing HTML is a matter of how you design your app. Using traditional JS libraries like ExtJS , you can also do 100% of page layout in Javascript and have almost no content in HTML.</p>
<p>3) Yes, the existing GWT Widgets are not designed to envelope/attach to existing DOM elements that well. However, there are well known workarounds.</p>
<p>4) You can use GWT-Ext or MyGWT libraries which do have methods for overlaying widget functionality onto existing DOM elements</p>
<p>I would point out, that if you just want to spray a tiny bit of DHTML functionality into an HTML app, then GWT is probably not for you, and I don&#8217;t believe Google has been encouraging people to use GWT just to attach a single autocomplete Widget toa  page.</p>
<p>However, once you build a non-trivial DHTML app, the GWT approach will pay off, in terms of scaling the size of the code base, to debugging and rich tool chains, to superior size and performance characteristics.</p>
<p>GWT is not really about replacing jQuery or Moo or Scriptaculous for piece-meal AJAX effects.</p>
<p>-Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Coucke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieter Coucke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried the methods in the DOM class.  However, I had several issues because most widget methods like add() only accept a widget, not an element. I also had problems with the event handling, because onclick event were not fired anymore (I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a solution, but I couldn&#039;t find it).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What I wanted to do was something like DOM.getByCSS(&quot;a.facet&quot;) and then replace the href with an ajax call (which is easy in Mootools).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried the methods in the DOM class.  However, I had several issues because most widget methods like add() only accept a widget, not an element. I also had problems with the event handling, because onclick event were not fired anymore (I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a solution, but I couldn&#8217;t find it).</p>
<p>What I wanted to do was something like DOM.getByCSS(&#8220;a.facet&#8221;) and then replace the href with an ajax call (which is easy in Mootools).</p>
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